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HydroServer w/o ArcGIS Server?

Mar 27, 2013 at 4:11 PM
notes from useful email exchange:

From: cuahsi-wds-user-group-forum@googlegroups.com [mailto:cuahsi-wds-user-group-forum@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Piper McKinnon
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 11:30 AM
To: cuahsi-wds-user-group-forum@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: HydroServer without ArcGIS server

Thanks for filling in the details on that Jeff, since we're not using the Map application I forgot all about it. Losing the ability to use this app is a definite downside to using Geoserver, however we have found with the numerous other ways to access the data it has not been a major problem for our use. It would be great to see a Geoserver option for Hydroserver map in the future though!


On Friday, March 22, 2013 10:56:04 AM UTC-4, Jeff Horsburgh wrote:
Francesco,

I think you have gotten good advise here from Tim and Piper. Tim and Piper – thanks for responding.

Generally – there are two functions served by ArcGIS Server for the HydroServer software stack. The first is publishing geospatial data as web services, which can easily be done using GeoServer (as Piper Describes). The second is that we built the HydroServer Map application using the ArcGIS Server Application Developer Framework. This is a component of ArcGIS Server that is used to create maps within web applications. Unfortunately, that application won't work without the component and so if you do not have ArcGIS Server, you can't use that application. But, that doesn't affect the rest of the HydroServer software stack. There are links to the map application from the HydroServer website, but they can easily be removed if you are not using it.

We are having a critical look at the HydroServer Map Application right now given that we used ArcGIS Server 9.3.1 to build the tool, and ESRI is now up to 10.1. It is due for an update, and we will consider alternatives.

Jeffery S. Horsburgh
Utah Water Research Laboratory
Utah State University
8200 Old Main Hill
Logan, UT 84322-8200
Phone: (435) 797-2946 Fax: (435) 797-3663

jeff.ho...@usu.edu http://jeffh.usu.edu

From: Piper McKinnon piperm...@gmail.com
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Date: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:44 AM
To: "cuahsi-wds-us...@googlegroups.com" cuahsi-wds-us...@googlegroups.com
Cc: "gver...@npca.ca" gver...@npca.ca, Piper McKinnon pmck...@npca.ca
Subject: Re: HydroServer without ArcGIS server

Hi Francesco,

We use Geoserver as our WMS here at the NPCA. The only real impact this has had on our CUAHSI implementation was adding notes to inform users of our WMS locations, and the need to customize the map elements on the Hydroserver website. This was fairly trivial if you have javascript skills. It requires the use of OpenLayers which is installed with Geoserver.
You can see an example of the maps customization by viewing the page source here: http://www.his.npca.ca/hydroserver/GIS-Data/1

The biggest effort for our implementation was getting Geoserver running on an IIS server. In case you are faced with the same challenge, I have attached some documentation. Basically, we first had to install Apache Tomcat server on our IIS machine, then install Geoserver within the Tomcat container. This work was done in 2010 and we plan to upgrade both Tomcat and Geoserver this year, you would be well advised to investigate the latest versions before following our documentation as things may be easier or different now.

I hope this helps you in your efforts,
Piper McKinnon


On Wednesday, March 20, 2013 1:53:12 PM UTC-4, TimW wrote:
I don’t know that a document describing how to configure HydroServer with GeoServer exists, but some groups such as the NPCA have done it. http://www.his.npca.ca/hydroserver
I’ve CC’d the contact for that server in case he’d like to chime in.
Tim Whiteaker
Research Associate
The University of Texas at Austin

From:cuahsi-wds-us...@googlegroups.com [mailto:cuahsi-wds-user-group-forum@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Francesco Lo Conti
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 12:14 PM
To: cuahsi-wds-us...@googlegroups.com Subject: HydroServer without ArcGIS server

Dear All,
I'd like to know wheter it is possible to design a Hydroserver implementation that does not make use of (the expensive) ArcGIS server and instead uses another map server application in place of it.
I found something about the possibility of using GeoServer in these pages:
http://cuahsihis.blogspot.it/2012/11/what-is-hydroserver.html
http://hydroserver.codeplex.com/workitem/7113
but I didn't find anything more in depth about tecnical installation information.
Do you have either some experiences or further information about it?
Thank you

Sincerely

Francesco

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